Online Commerce Suspect SCAM? Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack"
Archiving some of the feedback customers had on this issue to a personal blog -
A few weeks ago - I wrote about the Ipod Nano suspected Scam (?)organized by Seconds2Go.com also known as Micheles2Go and Now known as "On the Rack".
Story so far:
* Oct 9th: Bought the Nano from Seconds2Go
* Kelli Acton mails me that it will take 2 wks to ship (Give it till Oct 23rd)
* On 11/1 I was sent the tracking info on UPS.com
* On 11/7 I sent an email since hte tracking # recorded no changes past "Billing received"
* On 11/10 I get an email reply that UPS screwed up the shipping and that i will be paid my payment back.
* On 11/10 I called UPS and asked them if this was true - they said the tracking # is Invalid!
* My emails and phonecalls since then have not been returned - have done both atleast 4-5 times.
* By 11/20 I check online and Micheles2Go.com and Seconds2Go.com do not exist anymore they are now known as On the Rack with a phone number of 317 856 9763 with an email address of CUSTOMERCARE@ONTHERACK2.BIZ which never works (as in no one responds when you call there or email! Voice mail works but there is no call-back ever!)
So the credit card fraud transaction has been started - and this Blog entry is to warn others....
UPDATE!
Earlier today - I received this email from someone through this blog -
Hey I just bought something from this site and I hanvent been able to teack the records or anything, so I looked up this store on yahoo and stuff about feed back and saw that they had a bunch of negative feedbacks so this is how I found your post...I was just wondering what happened to your order and what you think I should do. thanks!!!
Well as you can see - I never got my order and I am proceeding it through my creditcard company for fraud and making sure I bring Michele Acton, Kelli Acton and their host of companies (which changes name every now and then) - Micheles2Go.com or Seconds2Go.Com or OnTheRack2.Biz to notice of other unwary innocent buyers.
NEW UPDATE - 12/3/05
Rachael just wrote in to me - I wish I would have found your blog 2 weeks ago. I appreciate the posting. I too have now put a dispute in with my credit card company!!! Thank you for the info. please let me know if there is anything else we can do to prevent others from going through the same bad experience!
Rachael: Sorry to hear you had the same problem - but I think you should comment in this blog and start a conversation so atleast others similar to you - know how bad this "firm" is and there can be somethign done. These ppl actually have IDs on Ebay/Amazon/UBid and Yahoo and we can at the very least email the admin on those sites alerting them abt this.
Published Wednesday, November 30, 2005 3:19 PM by Pradeep U.N.
Filed under: Random Rants
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# re: Online Commerce SCAM! Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Wednesday, November 30, 2005 7:25 PM I've always wondered why there aren't more scams like this. My company was recently hit by someone opening up a dummy merchant account in our name in order to process stolen cards. They sure seem to have gone to a lot of trouble considering that the scam you have been taken by seems to be much easier to pull off. Dummy web site with something really popular to sell (iPods). Then just get people to put in their credit card number and cvv2 code. Bingo! Stolen credit card info!
matt
# re: Online Commerce SCAM! Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Thursday, December 01, 2005 12:52 PM I hope they get brought to justice!
Miki
# re: Online Commerce SCAM! Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Thursday, December 01, 2005 2:29 PM Did they take money from your account?
Miki
# re: Online Commerce SCAM! Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Friday, December 02, 2005 4:13 AM Well Matt - you are right - it is a lot of trouble to get thie scam done! Oh well we all learn everyday. Miki - Yes I do hope they get brought to justice and yes they did take money from my account. it was a month ago. The credit card company wouldnt start a fraud claim till 30 days or so and so only recently Visa refunded me the money and is currently investigating the transaction on their side! I will be putting in update on this as things happen
Pradeep U.N.
# re: Online Commerce SCAM! Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Thursday, December 08, 2005 3:36 PM Hey good news(maybe)...i cancelled my credit before they took anything out! *Thanks* I hope they dont do anything with the info that I gave them :/ You should post the names that they use on ebay, Overstock, and yahoo
Miki
# re: Online Commerce SCAM! Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Thursday, December 08, 2005 10:49 PM This bitch (Kelli Acton) scamed my wife and she even got to talk to her on the phone! Judging by the amount of work she put into this scam I'd say this is a pro. We called the merchant she spoke of and turns out he called us and confirmed she had multiple alias and that he shut her down based on recent complaints of fraud. (Go figure on that spin?) Anyway here is the email she sent us... Dear Ms Robbins, I am emailing you about your purchase thru my webstore. On November 20 you made a purchase for an Apple iPod. You paid with your credit card and the money was processed thru my merchant account. However, the merchant account that I do business with had placed all my funds on hold, without giving my a reason. I have tried to refund your card and it will not go thru due to the merchant account. I want to explain how all this works. When a business accepts credit cards they have to process the cards thru a gateway. This gateway takes all the customers information and passes it onto a merchant account along with the customers money. The merchant account logs everything and then deposits the customers money into the business owners checking account. Your money and your information was deducted from your credit card thru my store. It then went to the gateway and then passed onto the merchant account. It stopped at the merchant account and is being held there. They are refusing to release the funds to me and they will not let me refund you as well. I am VERY angry that they have cheated my customers and my business. I do not do business this way. I have placed a call to the person that is in charge of this. This person, Jeff Beene, has had these funds on hold for several weeks now. I have instructed him to release the funds BACK to my customers. (olympic back pedaling) If you do not receive your refund by Friday Dec 9, 2005 please call Jeff at 1-877-754-0530 EXT 101. There is no reason for this company to hold your money. I am truly very sorry for this and want to get this matter taken care as soon as possible. (Total swerve) If you have any questions please email me. Thank You, Kelli On The Rack Seconds 2 Go IF ANYONE DOESN'T KNOW (and now my wife and her friends know)APPLE PRODUCTS ARE VERY VERY TIGHTLY CONTROLLED WHEN IT COMES TO WHO CAN SELL THE PRODUCTS AND HOW MUCH THE PRICE IS. THEY HAVE A GOOD GRIP ON THEIR RE SELLERS, NOT SURE HOW, BUT THEY DO. It has been that way for many years! Your best bet is to go through the Apple store for anything Apple related, trust me! We have cancelled the card my wife used and plan on investigating a little further. It just so happens I have a old high school buddy that is a well know PI. She has F$@%#& with the wrong guy ;(
Steve Robbins
# re: Online Commerce SCAM! Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Sunday, December 11, 2005 12:05 AM Not sure what is going on here but I got this blog from a friend who also bought from this store. She referred me as well and i have made several purchases from this person and have never had a problem. I have bought clothes and shoes and, yes, I bought an iPod from her as well. Now I do have to say that it took 15 days to receive the iPod,(everything else was shipped fast), but I did get it and there was nothing wrong with it. My friend that refered me to the store did not receive her iPod and was issued a full refund...no harm done. If everyone got there money back then how can you consider it fraud? I also do not understand why some people feel they should be calling this person a b****. What is up with that? Do you know this person well enough to call her that? Yes, I did get my products but I was just as concerned as everyone else because I tried to call and no one returned my calls either. That is bad business but I am not going to pass judgement since I do not know the whole story behind her business. I just think it's wrong to call someone dirty names and accuse them of fraud if you got your money back.
Cassie
# re: Online Commerce SCAM! Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Sunday, December 11, 2005 2:28 AM Pradeep, We need to have a SERIOUS talk about your blog! One of my customers emailed it to me and I was flooored over what was written. HOW DARE YOU INSULT ME WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING THE WHOLE STORY?! Lets start with the beginning of the story. You posted a business name,(On The Rack), that is listed as a billard company. I have spoken to the owner of this company and he is very upset that you are using his company name on your blog and trashing it. Yes, Seconds 2 Go was changed to On The Rack, however, that was done because the business was SOLD to another person. When she found out that the name, On The Rack, was being used by another company she shut down the whole store and moved it to another location with a different web host and a different name. So as of today, 12/11/2005, you are trashing another company that does not deserve this. You claim that I was running a "iPod Nano Scam" when you have NO proof of that. I had several hundred customers who DID receive their iPods and I have the paperwork to back this up. Do you understand that this statement Ipod Nano Scam organized by Seconds2Go.com also known as Micheles2Go and Now known as "On the Rack". is considered slander? You also claim that I gave you a false tracking number. Not true. You were given a valid tracking number on 11/1. If this tracking number was invalid then how were you able to look it up? You were then notified that your order had to be cancelled due to our supplier. We then cancelled your tracking number. This is why UPS told you it was not valid. Why would we pay for a shipping label if we couldn't get the merchandise to you? That makes no sense. I have all the paperwork to back up my story with UPS. We have an account with them and are billed every month. The paperwork does not lie. UPS tracking system does not lie either. They track everyones I.P. address everytime someone tracks a package or even goes to their site. Your I.P. address shows up in their system. So, please, tell me how you got a invalid tracking number from me when you were tracked, by UPS, as tracking your package? Another untrue statement on your blog. I'm sure there were several times when you called and emailed and didn't get a response. For that, I am sorry. There were several people who did not get the customer service they deserved. A mistake that i would never make again. I am not in the business to hurt anyone and I did email you asking that you contact your credit card company to get a refund. I also do not go into detail, with my customers, about my business mishaps that I have had with suppliers. However, I think you should know this since you are priding yourself on calling my a scammer. Yes, many people did not get products they paid for. HOWEVER, I contacted each and everyone of these people and asked them to call their credit card company and file a chargeback. This was the ONLY way they could get their money back. Now, if I was a scammer would I give out this information? NO! When a person files a chargeback it comes out of the merchants account,(i.e. my account), where the money went to to begin with. Do you know WHY you never received your merchandise? Because I was taken for a fool and bought your product from a crook. THAT'S RIGHT! I paid thousands of dollars to someone who never shipped the merchandise to me. Then the guy took off with my money and a few other sellers money. There are five of us who got scammed by this guy and we are ALL paying badly for it. Did you know that when you file a chargeback your credit card company takes that money from my account and gives it back to you. Which they should because you never received product. That, in turn, leaves my account in the negative. My business account has been in the negative for over a month now. I have five accounts at this bank, including a personal checking that I share with my husband. His payroll check is direct deposited into our personal account. Because my business account is in the negative, thousands of dollars because of this jerk, my bank has put a hold on ALL of our accounts! We cannot withdraw ANYTHING!!! Do you know what this means? This means that there will NOT be Christmas for my kids this year, our bills are not getting paid and we don't even have money to buy groceries. All because I trusted one person with my money! I'm sure you don't care, it's not your problem. I am just tired of being slammed by everyone. If I was out to rip you off, you would have not heard from me at all! You claim By 11/20 I check online and Micheles2Go.com and Seconds2Go.com do not exist anymore they are now known as On the Rack with a phone number of 317 856 9763 with an email address of CUSTOMERCARE@ONTHERACK2.BIZ which never works! I think you better rethink that statement. The phone number AND the email work. Again, I have a paper trail proving that both are working. You also stated that you filed a credit card fraud report. That is really funny because the paperwork I got, from my merchant account, simply states that you didn't receive your merchandise. There is nothing in the report stating fraud. So again, you have lied stating that you were a victim of fraud. And just so you, and everyone else that posted on your site, when you go thru a check out and enter your credit card info, the store owner DOES NOT get your credit card number. What do you think a merchant account does? THEY are the ones who have all your info! They process the money end of the transaction, NOT the store owner. I NEVER once had anyones credit card number! I also would like to know who "Rachel" is. Whoever she is she didn't buy anything from my store. I really hope you didn't make her up. You also encourage others to give you any user i.d. from eBay, Yahoo, Amazon, and Ubid. What is wrong with you?! I do not sell on the auctionsites anymore and for you to even suggest something like that WITHOUT all the facts is crazy! Do you understand that you are causing harm to people who did nothing wrong? Do you understand that you are causing harm to ME without knowing all the facts? Do you understand that I can sue you and Microsoft for posting my name,(without my permission), and lying about me. I have paperwork to back up everything I did with this business. If I was out to scam ANYONE would I have told all my customers to file a chargeback? A chargeback hurts MY BUSINESS not anyone else! And YES, you did call this a scam... # re: Online Commerce SCAM! Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" Friday, December 02, 2005 4:13 AM by Pradeep U.N. Well Matt - you are right - it is a lot of trouble to get thie scam done! Oh well we all learn everyday. There are a few things that you need to know. 1) The meaning of slander:A false defamation (expressed in spoken words, signs, or gestures) which injures the character or reputation of the person defamed; distinguished from libel. The defaming a man in his reputation by speaking or writing words which affect his life, office, or trade, or which tend to his loss of preferment in marriage or service, or in his inheritance, or which occasion any other particular damage. In England, if slander be spoken of a peer, or other great man, it is called Scandalum Magnatum. Falsity and malice are ingredients of slander. Written or printed slanders are libels. Here it is proposed to treat of verbal slander only, which may be considered with reference to, 1st. The nature of the accusation. 2d. The falsity of the charge. 3d. The mode of publication. 4th. The occasion; and 5th. The malice or motive of the slander. Actionable words are of two descriptions; first, those actionable in themselves, without proof of special damages and, secondly, those actionable only in respect of some actual consequential damages. Words of the first description must impute: - 1st. The guilt of some offence for which the party, if guilty, might be indicted and punished by the criminal courts; as to call a person a "traitor," "thief," "highwayman;" or to say that he is guilty of "perjury," "forgery," "murder," and the like. And although the imputation of guilt be general, without stating the particulars of the pretended crime, it is actionable. - 2d. That the party has a disease or distemper which renders him unfit for society. An action can therefore be sustained for calling a man a leper. But charging another with having had a contagious disease is not actionable, as he will not, on that account, be excluded from society. A charge which renders a man ridiculous, and impairs the enjoyment of general society, and injures those imperfect rights of friendly intercourse and mutual benevolence which man has with respect to man, is also actionable. - 3d. Unfitness in an officer, who holds an office to which profit or emolument is attached, either in respect of morals or inability to discharge the duties of the office in such a case an action lies. - 4th. The want of integrity or capacity, whether mental or pecuniary, in the conduct of a profession, trade or business, in which the party is engaged, is actionable as to accuse an attorney or artist of inability, inattention, or want of integrity or a clergyman of being a drunkard; Of the second class are words which are actionable only in respect of special damages sustained by the party slandered. Though the law will not permit in these cases the inference of damage, yet when the damage has actually been sustained, the party aggrieved may support an action for the publication of an untruth unless the assertion be made for the assertion of a supposed claim. Action upon the case for Defamation but it lies if maliciously spoken. The charge must be false; the falsity of the accusation is to be implied till the contrary is shown. The instance of a master making an unfavorable representation of his servant, upon an application for his character, seems to be an exception, in that case there being a presumption from the occasion of the speaking, that the words were true. The slander must, of course, be published, that is communicated to a third person; and if verbal, then in a language which he understands, otherwise the plaintiff's reputation is not impaired. A letter addressed to the party, containing libelous matter, is not sufficient to maintain a civil action, though it may subject the libeler to an indictment, as tending to a breach of the peace; the slander must be published respecting the plaintiff; a mother cannot maintain an action for calling her daughter a bastard. To render words actionable, they must be uttered without legal occasion. On some occasions it is justifiable to utter slander of another, in others it is excusable, provided it be uttered without express malice. It is justifiable for au attorney to use scandalizing expressions in support of his client's cause and pertinent thereto. Members of congress and other legislative assemblies cannot be called to account for anything said in debate. Malice is essential to the support of an action for slanderous words. But malice is in general to be presumed until the contrary be prove except in those cases where the occasion prima facie excuses the publication. SLANDERER - A calumniator, who maliciously and without reason imputes a crime or fault to another, of which he is innocent. For this offence, when the slander is merely verbal, the remedy is an action on the case for damages; when it is reduced to writing or printing, it is a libel. Can I sue someone who says or writes something defamatory about me? In order to prove defamation, you have to be able to prove that what was said or written about you was false. If the information is true, or if you consented to publication of the material, you will not have a case. However, you may bring an defamatory action if the comments are so reprehensible and false that they effect your reputation in the community or cast aspersions on you. How do I know this? My father in law is an attorney. He is working with the State Police in prosecuting the two guys who never shipped my merchandise to sell to my customers,(i.e. you). I have now turned everything from your website over to him. I don't feel that I deserve this and I did not give you permission to use my name or my business name. I don't think you understand how serious this is. Do you understand that you could lose your job with Microsoft? What do you think they will say when they are brought into this? And why would you let someone else post filth on your blog,(calling me a bitch). The meaning of BITCH: A female canine animal, especially a dog. Last time I looked I had two legs, not four. This simply tells me that you have no morals and that kind of language is ok with you. It is now 2 A.M. Indiana time. I am asking you to remove the whole "iPod scam" blog. If you don't I will proceed with a civil suit against you and Microsoft. I will also be contacting your local newspaper and the media. I will also sue you for any and all fees that my father in law charges. I DID NOT give you permission to use my name or my business name. You also have my site linked in your blog. I did not give you permission to do so as everything on my site and all the text is copyright. It is all protected by law. You now have 24 hours to REMOVE all of it before I start to file the paperwork. You also have 24 hours to remove anything you posted about me or my business on any other website. Like I stated before, I have paperwork to backup everything I did, including emails, and phone records all the way to my UPS account. I have NO problem taking you to court no matter what state it is in. I think you have been unfair and you have pasted judgement where you should have. You started this whole thing now you need to fix it. Kelli Acton
latingrl88
# re: Online Commerce SCAM! Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Sunday, December 11, 2005 8:10 AM I Was going to respond to the long winded response to Kelli - but then I got an email from chris which stated thus: I was also scammed by Michele Acton. On August 19 of this year I ordered a psp 1.5 system for 150$ plus shipping. In total it was$ 158.65. I sent them a money order and kept the receipt for the money order and online receipt. I have contacted them much and they did the same thing with the tracking number. They gave it to me and it never changed. It has been almost 3 months and no product or refund. I am very angry and have decided to contact them one more time before I call the Indiana State Police. Your webpage has made me realize what they are doing, is a scam. I will tell my friend that also bought a psp from their site but never recieved a product or refund. Thank You very much. Sincerely, Chris Griffin If there are so many customers - complaining about service over a few months now, seriously, I would rather say what happened to me and others. And Kelli - Rachel is as real as you are - pls dont say she doesnt exist - Paper trails work bothways. As do law suits. I could not give my nano present to my friend who expected that it in time and no moneyback is going to fix that - so yes there is more value lost bcos of that. As for that tracking number on UPS the following is what i get - when Normally when i buy from ebay (and i have over 200 times) the status shd end in SHIPPED. not VOID. Status: SHIPPED Last Scan: 11/24/2005 9:37:00 PM BILLING INFORMATION VOIDED US US Carrier: UPS Service: GROUND UPS Tracking Number: 1ZX227Y40398204406 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Scan History: 11/24/2005 9:37:00 PM BILLING INFORMATION VOIDED US 11/1/2005 9:03:00 AM BILLING INFORMATION RECEIVED US In other words - I am a disgruntled customer who claims its a scam. There are atleast 4 other customers who mailed and thanked me for letting them know about my story about that it is a scam... so if the customers speak.... I am glad my blog helps.... it is a free world and the customers rule.
Pradeep U.N.
# re: Online Commerce SCAM? Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Sunday, December 11, 2005 10:42 AM That's right Pradeep, it is a free world and everyone has the right to voice. However, you cannot slander someone. As for your tracking number; I told you it had been voided. Why would we pay for shipping when we never received the product? You didn't want to pay for a iPod you didn't receive, right? I am sorry that you didn't have your item in time for that "gift" but you did receive your money back. I am still going to stand my ground. If this is not removed within 24 hours I will go ahead with my suit.
Kelli
# re: Online Commerce SCAM? Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Sunday, December 11, 2005 12:11 PM I dont consider anything I wrote slander as opposed to stating facts. Read what i wrote again and see from the views of the customer. As for comments posted by people who come to my site from the internet - its their words and I cant be responsible for that. I stand by all the facts that I had stated and NO I did not get responses to my emails or voicemails or my money back from you. My credit card company did a wk after I complained to them since I had no response from you. And that is a fact.
Pradeep U.N.
# re: Online Commerce Suspect SCAM? Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Wednesday, December 14, 2005 11:36 AM I agree with Pradeep its not slander if its a fact...oh and btw I never got responses to my emails either.
Cassie
# re: Online Commerce Suspect SCAM? Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Saturday, February 04, 2006 10:23 PM I have still not recieved a refund for the PSP I payed for in August. They have not contacted me for almost 2 months and I send them Emails all of the time. What should I do to get my money back.
Chris Griffin
# re: Online Commerce Suspect SCAM? Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Sunday, February 05, 2006 3:04 AM Chris - hopefully u paid using a credit card. If u did call the Credit card and start a fraudclaim. if u did NOT use a credit card then its a much more complicated process.
Pradeep U.N.
# re: Online Commerce Suspect SCAM? Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Thursday, March 02, 2006 9:46 AM I had the exact same problem with Kelli Acton. Someone who saw the negative feedback I left for her actually sent me a link to this page because they had the exact same problem. I ordered a Nintendo DS from her and she repeatedly told me it had shipped and then gave me a false tracking number (created online with no product ever brought to UPS). After I figured out the tracking number was fake, I tried REPEATEDLY to contact her, and she never returned a single call or e-mail. I then disputed the transaction through Ebay, but only got part of my money back because Kelli didn't have the funds to refund me. Now I'm out money unless Ebay can manage to collect from her. Multiple people who have bought from this person have e-mailed me since they saw my feedback and have relayed very similar stories to me. BEWARE OF THIS SELLER. If she has this many people with identical stories, how can she claim that what people are saying is slander. The truth isn't slander.
Melissa
# re: Online Commerce Suspect SCAM? Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Friday, March 10, 2006 12:36 PM I too was scammed by Kelli Acton to the tune of $384.05 If anyone knows how to get this resolved I would be more than happy to join in.....my numerous emails have gone unanswered and when I tried to call her number it has been disconnected.
Connie
# re: Online Commerce Suspect SCAM? Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Friday, July 28, 2006 3:14 AM I recently purchased an item from The Attitude Boutique which is controlled by this dimwit Kelli Acton. I made a purchase as of the 26th of June and now, the 27th of July, I am yet to receive any product, two weeks after, I was told that I would be refunded my money and as of now, nothing has happened. I have sent about 6 emails and called countless times ... NOTHING. I started to wonder whether or not this is a SCAM and now, I find your site. I'm not quite sure what to do in terms of getting the money back now and I don't know what my credit card company will do in terms of refunding the amount. I will file a fraud claim with Chase.
Ogechi
# re: Online Commerce Suspect SCAM? Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Sunday, August 06, 2006 11:56 AM This is in response to Connie, I recently got my money back, but I had to call up the bank and file a chargeback. It takes a few days or less for the money to appear back on your card and then they send you a letter confirming the transaction. So call you bank ASAP.
Ogechi
# re: Online Commerce Suspect SCAM? Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Friday, September 08, 2006 7:58 PM To whom it may concern and anyone else who might read this posting. I am the sister of Kelli Acton and on August 31, 2006 my sister was killed in a traffic accident. I am asking the owner of this board to please remove all the postings to the stores and the problems that everyone had with her and her bad selling practices. Thank you, Leslie
Leslie Trudeau
# re: Online Commerce Suspect SCAM? Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Saturday, November 11, 2006 6:28 PM
Wow... http://www.sixkidsandastore.com/ is the new site and they're offering Playstation 3's. It seems as though our friend, Kelli, is now using the guise "Keli Sullivan."
You're right, Leslie... "Kelli Acton" was killed in a traffic accident... and replaced by Kelli Sullivan.
It's about time you guys are stopped.
Stephen
# re: Online Commerce Suspect SCAM? Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Sunday, November 12, 2006 11:31 PM
Apparently she is working from the grave to sell Playstation 3's at well below cost at http://www.sixkidsandastore.com/ . Knowing how she has scammed others before, i seem to have lost all faith in ecommerce and the justice system lately. Luckily, i had my suspicions and never ordered from her. Good luck to everyone else (and all the children)whose Christmases will be ruined this year because of her.
Trenton
# re: Online Commerce Suspect SCAM? Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Tuesday, November 14, 2006 2:15 PM
This is ridiculous, that this can't be stopped.
PS3 SCAM
# re: Online Commerce Suspect SCAM? Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Friday, November 24, 2006 1:24 AM
Well, I ordered an ipod from sixkidsandastore and it is a scam. Same thing happened. No answered emails, said I would get refund and never did get one. I payed 115 dollars. I filed a complaint and I'm close to getting my money back. I'm also in the process of forwarding this to a federal investigation. My brother-in-law is a lawyer (thank goodness). I will keep you posted.
Marc
# CALLING KELLI..dare you to respond. @ Sunday, November 26, 2006 7:16 PM
Kelli,
Do not dare coming on here to defend yourself unless you put a phone number that doesnt have a full mailbox and works. LANDLINE also in case you are that ignorant that we want a cell phone. Then answer it and when we are all done talking with you, we will see who is happy. Coming on here ranting and raving about remove this and that you have no grounds, you have been a loser your whole life and continue to. Stealing money will never fix that.
BRING IT!
Derick
# re: Online Commerce Suspect SCAM? Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Monday, November 27, 2006 3:20 PM
I ordered something from there today before investigating the site. I've contacted "the deceased" Keli and I'm waiting to hear back...
I've gathered quite a bit of information through various channels and will gladly post it here in the near future.
To be continued...
Jered
# re: Online Commerce Suspect SCAM? Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Monday, November 27, 2006 4:20 PM
Okay... In the email I sent, I told her of the blog and asked for the truth. I asked her to either provide a tracking number or cancel my order and refund the charges within 24 hours.
First, she said that she was aware of the blog and got the impression that she wasn't suprised. She just wanted to know where I found the blog... Google.com is your friend.
Next, I asked for the order to be filled with a tracking number or a refund within 24 hours. I guess she cannot fill the order (for a Nintendo Wii) because she made no mention of being able to meet the demands of the order. Instead, she only said that she would be happy to cancel the order and provide a refund... But the accounting department only does that on Saturdays.
Yep, Saturdays... I don't get that either.
At any rate, I'll give Keli Sullivan the benefit of the doubt and give her the chance to cancel the credit card charges, but that card will be reported and killed just in case.
As for Keli Acton, if what Leslie said is true, and Keli Acton is dead, I don't think it would be too bad to give out a fraction of information that some of my contacts found for me... If Aaron picks up the phone, start with "My condolences..." just in case. ;)
Aaron C Acton and Keli Acton
8628 Orchard Grove Lane
Camby, IN 46113
(317) 856-6373 - home phone
(317) 856-9763 - old business phone
Jered
# She is alive. @ Monday, November 27, 2006 4:41 PM
She is alive, such a silly plan to make us actually think she was in a car accident. She has resonded to my email 2 weeks ago(11-15-06) signed with her name on it and many claim the same thing. So she is alive just backpedaling thats all.
She is a $#$@head that steals and hides like the trash she is. I mean look at her picture...TRASH! Gutter Trash, she has no real education obviously any schooling she "claims" is just another one of her mindless fabrications. She has six kids cuz thats what she can do besides scam people. I am actually glad I am involved now.
Not Gull
# re: Online Commerce Suspect SCAM? Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Friday, December 01, 2006 8:35 PM
Sadly enough I came across this blog a little too late and it looks like I've been scammed too. I tried emailing her after I saw that the site was taken down and all I get is this trash here...
THANK YOU TO EVERYONE FOR ALL THE TROUBLE! Our store is now closed! It's a shame that people are so cruel!
Now I have no idea what to do, the joy of actually finding a Wii for retail price, in stock, killed my judgment. Should I cancel my credit card or file for a claim...how do I go about getting my money back?
David
# re: Online Commerce Suspect SCAM? Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Friday, December 01, 2006 9:06 PM
WOW! I am shocked at what I am reading! I did business with this store about a month ago. I got my purchase with no problems. This was not the case with a buddy I work with. He placed the same order after I told him about my order and the good price. A week and a half later he gets an email stating that he will be receiving a refund. When he tried calling he could never get an answer and his emails went unanswered as well. He did get his refund as promised.
After reading all this I decided to do some checking. Yeah, call me nosey but I wanted to know. I live in Indiana and not far from the addresses that I have found for this business. Sooooooo....I went for a drive. The address in Greenwood is a mail box drop off. They claim that this is their physical address....not so.
The second address,(Orchard Grove Lane), belongs to someone by the name of Janice & Lyle Tharp. Internet phone books have it listed under a Kelli and Aaron Acton.
I even went as far as looking up the property and when/if it was sold to see if she ever lived there. It sold to this Janice and Lyle about 5 months ago. There was no forwarding address for Acton.
I would have to say at this point that the best thing to do is call your credit card company to get your funds back. Waiting will only make it that much harder.
I think that from now on I am going to investigate a business before I buy. I was lucky enough that I got what i paid for but what I bought was something small and it didn't cost me a whole lot. It's too bad that this type of scam happens all the time.
Eric
# re: Online Commerce Suspect SCAM? Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Saturday, December 02, 2006 3:52 PM
You missed a treat if you didn't get a chance to review her HTML code within SixKidsAndAStore.com.
Her Meta Tags (keywords that "spiders" or bots crawl the web for each day for returns to searches through Google, Yahoo, etc.) included Louis Vuitton, Gucci, Rolex, etc. Stuff she didn't offer, and never would.
Talk about a lawsuit waiting to happen. If these companies had been made aware of her hidden search key words, the would have had their lawyers on her promptly.
Good luck to all still waiting for refunds!
Anonymous
# re: Online Commerce Suspect SCAM? Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Saturday, December 02, 2006 8:05 PM
I too made a purchase from sixkidsandastore.com. After waiting for it for a few weeks (I didn't ship it via UPS which I should have done), I emailed them asking about it. They said they'd give me a refund like others have said, and as others have experienced I never received the refund.
So after finding out the website was down I called my bank after stumbling onto this blog and should be getting my money back in a few days. They're also canceling my card and issuing me a new one. I hope everyone else scammed by them gets their money back.
Anonymous
# re: Online Commerce Suspect SCAM? Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Monday, December 04, 2006 8:47 AM
I had the same problem with a nintendo wii purchase that Jered talked about. Everything he said that happend to him, happend to me. She is a crook.
Oh, and Sixkidsandastore.com no longer exists.
Anonymous
# sixkidsandastore.com @ Tuesday, December 05, 2006 11:20 AM
Sixkidsandastore.com is now back online... I've reported the site to marketworks who creates the ecommerce software used on the site. Hopefully they will have more information on their customer (name and billing information) to see who is at the top of this scam.
As an update to my case, there has been no refund to date, and I have disputed the charges.
I sure hope marketworks can help us find the real leader of this. If they are in the Indy area, I'll gladly drive 3 hours to testify against them to make sure they are put away for a while.
Jered
# Response from MarketWatch @ Tuesday, December 05, 2006 2:27 PM
I read the blog entry. Because of our privacy policies I cannot give out any specific information about the seller. What I can tell you is that I have made the seller aware of the open complaints and set a time period for her to resolve them and if we still have open issues after that time period the account will be permanently closed.
I hesitate to do that prematurely because it would restrict her ability to fulfill current open orders and users would most certainly not receive their orders at that point. I have personally spoken to the seller and expressed the seriousness nature of the complaints.
I believe she will act in good faith and resolve the issues and I am monitoring the account daily.
Marketworks is not the Seller, but simply the Online Inventory Management and Storefront provider the Seller uses. We do not take the payments for the Seller, nor do we have anything to do with the payment, shipping, or return status of orders.
Thanks,
Jeremy Fentress
Director of Global Customer Care
---
Many thanks to Jeremy for what he is doing for us. Even though I will not have a problem getting my money back through my credit card company, I'm still looking out for the rest of ya.
Good luck.
Jered
# err... @ Tuesday, December 05, 2006 2:28 PM
MarketWorks, not MarketWatch. Typo... My apologies. :)
Jered
# re: Online Commerce Suspect SCAM? Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Wednesday, December 06, 2006 11:08 AM
She once again has nintendo wii's for sale on sixkidsandastore.com.
Anonymous
# re: Online Commerce Suspect SCAM? Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Wednesday, December 06, 2006 12:21 PM
Listen to this, she emails me a couple of days ago and says "how did you pay? is it credit card or can it also be used for debit card?" Don't respond to her email questions. She is trying to screw you more.
I suggest all of you to not only call your credit card companies, but to ask for another credit card. The thieves already have all your credit card numbers fellas, they could really make this a lot worse. So don't just file a claim and get the money back, ask for another card and void your current one. This is how crooks steal credit card numbers and sell them.
Also, forward this information and your case to a FEDERAL agency. They wont resolve the claim but will investigate and establish a criminal law suit.
Don't let this little bitch get away with it.
PS. The bank (not her) gave me my money back 2 days ago, but let's continue the fight against this shameless whore.
Anonymous 2
# re: Online Commerce Suspect SCAM? Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Wednesday, December 06, 2006 5:30 PM
Ok - I am jumping on this train of people that have been stolen from by this crook. My purchase was WAY back in Oct '05 - and I exchanged many e-mails with Keli in attempts to get my money back for the discounted Nano that I purchased (and figured was too good to be true). This goes to show that being cheated and lied to by someone leaves permanent impressions - as I just thought of it again now (more than a year later) and decided to do a Google search on this sick twisted Keli or whatever name she goes by. I remember how seriously enraged I was that my son did not get the Nano I had promised him on Christmas. I could not afford to eat the $200 that she stole from me AND buy a real Nano from an honest source (my bank would not issue a refund). At one point, I was investigating her to find her home address and mak a suprise visit - I was that enraged! Mainly - it was the fact that she and I both knew she was flat out lying to me and stealing my $ - yet she could not admit to it. I would rather be stuck up at gunpoint in the street for my $200 than to have some twisted lying poor excuse for a "christian" American cheat me.
Ok that is my rant - an I am now back on the train to bring this b^$*% to justice. I have a lot of correspondence from her if anyone would like to see it. Below is my original purchase confirmation from "Seconds2go" ;
micheles2go@comcast.net
to me
10/27/05
Dear Rob,
Thank you for your order.
For your reference, your order number is 39828936.
Payment Method: Visa/Mastercard
Inv # Title Qty Price
--------------- --------------------------------------------- --- ----------
85 4GB iPod Nano---->BRAND NEW!!! (Storefront... 1 $200.00
Subtotal: $200.00
Shipping & Handling: $9.30
Insurance: $0.70
Total: $210.00
If you have any questions or comments, please contact us directly.
As always you can view your order at https://www.marketworks.com/en/checkout/order_complete.aspx?orderuid=39828936&sfid=88911&c=57030583
Sincerely,
SECONDS 2 GO 4 U
I cant belive that a year later this hag is not in jail and STILL cheating people!!!! Let's bring her DOWN!!!!!!!!!!
ramair311@gmail.com
Rob
# re: Online Commerce Suspect SCAM? Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Thursday, December 07, 2006 1:45 PM
Not sure if this helps in anyway, did a WHOIS look up of the site
Registrant:
WhoisProtector Inc. (sixkidsandastore.com)
550 Burrard Street, Suite 200
Vancouver, BC V6C 2B5
Canada
Registrar: DomainPeople, Inc.
Domain Name: sixkidsandastore.com
Created on .............Mon Jul 31 08:38:33 2006
Expires on .............Tue Jul 31 11:38:34 2007
Record last updated on .Mon Nov 06 20:01:14 2006
Administrative Contact:
WhoisProtector Inc.
WhoisProtector Inc.
550 Burrard Street, Suite 200
Vancouver, BC
V6C 2B5, CA
()604-688-8974
()
sixkidsandastore.com@mail1.whoisprotector.com
Technical Contact:
WhoisProtector Inc.
WhoisProtector Inc.
550 Burrard Street, Suite 200
Vancouver, BC
V6C 2B5, CA
()604-688-8974
()
sixkidsandastore.com@mail1.whoisprotector.com
Domain servers in listed order:
a.dns.hostway.net 66.113.129.243
b.dns.hostway.net 64.26.0.115
(sixkidsandastore.com)
David
# re: Online Commerce Suspect SCAM? Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Thursday, December 07, 2006 4:38 PM
WhoisProtector Inc. is a service designed for those people who wish to remain anonymous behind their domains - it figures that Keli would use this.
I left a voicemail at her home telephone # last night - one year after I lost my $200 to an undelivered Nano. (317) 856-6373 has a greeting for "Aaron and Keli" - Sep 8,"To whom it may concern and anyone else who might read this posting.
I am the sister of Kelli Acton and on August 31, 2006 my sister was killed in a traffic accident. "........... she has been ressurected! Praise the Lord!!!!
Rob
# WhoIs information @ Saturday, December 09, 2006 7:37 PM
Kelli forgot to protect ontherack2.biz
You can get the true whois information for this address.
Anonymous
# re: Online Commerce Suspect SCAM? Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Monday, December 11, 2006 8:30 PM
Keli Acton's home phone number is 317-856-6373. I just had an interesting exchange with her husband who refused to "conduct business for my wife". I was hung up on 3 times while simply trying to request the valid business number at which I could reach the crook. Although juvenile, I plan to call this number multiple times daily and nightly until I get satisfaction!!!!!!!!!
anaonymous
# re: Online Commerce Suspect SCAM? Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Wednesday, December 13, 2006 9:02 AM
Ok...I too was scammed by Kelli about 2 months ago for a ps3. However, just 2 days ago a recieved an email from the Indiana court system asking to contact them about my exchange as they are doing an investigation. I'm a little skeptical if this is really them or rather just another part of Kelli's plan...I'm gonna look into is and get back to you guys.
anonymous
# re: Online Commerce Suspect SCAM? Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Friday, December 22, 2006 11:00 AM
My bank gave me my money back. Thanks for the blog! Because I read this in time, I was able to call my bank and since no more than 60 days passed I was able to get my money. Thanks to the owner of this blog, this little nasty bitch kelli wasn't able to get away with this fraud. See ya guys. and thanks again
marc
# re: Online Commerce Suspect SCAM? Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Saturday, January 06, 2007 5:53 PM
I called Keli at her hom telephon number this Monday - still trying to recover the $210 she charged me in Oct 2005 for an Ipod I never received. She asked fro my order number and promised to get back to me with more information - I have yet to hear back from her. Since I have her home telephone number - I will be calling frequently until I get my money back.
Rob
# re: Online Commerce Suspect SCAM? Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Saturday, January 27, 2007 2:05 PM
I ordered a Nintendo DS Lite from her in late september and obviously I never recieved it. I was promised a refund, never got that either. Called, left voicemails, emails etc etc. dumb bitch. i hate you kelli.
Samantha
# re: Online Commerce Suspect SCAM? Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Monday, January 29, 2007 7:57 PM
Samantha - her home telephone # is 317-856-6373 :)
anonymous
# re: Online Commerce Suspect SCAM? Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Tuesday, January 30, 2007 1:57 PM
Don't worry, everyone. The walls are closing in on Kelly and she knows it. She can lie to us all that she wants but people such as myself have received emails from the DA regarding her and quite the investigation is under way. Kelly, you'd better run and hide because your ass is busted this time! I hope your kids are also going to be pissed off at you for ruining their credit by using their SS #'s. Deny it to us all you want, Kelly because your lies don't matter to us anymore. It's time for you to start thinking up a better story... you're going to need it when the feds come knocking on your door (if they haven't already).
It's just a matter of time now...
KellyIsDoneFor
# re: Online Commerce Suspect SCAM? Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Tuesday, January 30, 2007 2:09 PM
By the way, I just put a list together of all of the information I have found that everyone has posted all around about Kelly's information. Spread this around and help rid the internet of this scam artist!
Current Name:
Kelli Michelle Acton (36 years of age)
Alternate Names:
First Name: Kelli or Keli
Middle Name: Michelle or Michele
Last Names: Sullivan, Bach (or Bock/Boch) and Acton
Current Husband's Name:
Aaron C. Acton (33 years of age)
Aliases Used Online (Messageboards, Ebay, etc.):
indynurse
indynurse5041
halonurse1
gamegirl80
attitude4u
seconds2go
micheles2go
ontherack1
ontherack2
sixkidsandastore
Email Addresses:
sixkidsandastore@yahoo.com (Business Alias)
6kidsandastore@comcast.net (Business Alias) [Current]
seconds2go4u@comcast.net (Business Alias)
micheles2go@comcast.net (Business Alias)
ontherack2@yahoo.com (Business Alias)
customercare@ontherack2.biz (Business Alias)
attitudestores@yahoo.com (Business Alias)
kactonrn@comcast.net (Kelli's Personal) [Current]
medicone@telocity.com (Aaron's Personal) [Outdated?]
indynurse5041@aol.com (Kelli's Personal) [Outdated]
whatsleftofme@comcast.net (Business and Personal)
Address Information:
Six Kids and a Store
640 US Highway 31 S # F
Greenwood, IN 46142
Seconds 2 Go, Michele's 2 Go, and On the Rack
498 Town Center St N # 241
Mooresville, IN 46158
The Attitude Boutique
8628 Orchard Grove Ln.
Camby, IN 46113
Kelli and Aaron Acton [Current Address]
8628 Orchard Grove Ln.
Camby, IN 46113
Phone Numbers:
Phone 1: 317-856-4094
Phone 2: 317-856-9763
Phone 3: 317-856-6460
Phone 4 (Home): 317-856-6373
Fax 1: 775-845-8859
Fax 2: 775-370-1469
Business Names and Websites:
Attitude Boutique
www.attitude4u.com
www.auctionattitudes.com
Michele's 2 Go
www.micheles2go.com
Seconds 2 Go
www.seconds2go4u.com
On The Rack
www.ontherack1.citymaker.com
www.ontherack2.biz
www.ontherack1.com
Six Kids and a Store
www.sixkidsandastore.com
KellyIsDoneFor
# re: Online Commerce Suspect SCAM? Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Friday, February 09, 2007 3:06 PM
"She can lie to us all that she wants but people such as myself have received emails from the DA regarding her and quite the investigation is under way."
- Can you please post this DA's contact information? I have many documents which will support their investigation. Thank
anonymous
# re: Online Commerce Suspect SCAM? Update to Seconds2Go now known "On The Rack" @ Tuesday, February 13, 2007 9:14 AM
HOW INTERESTING! This blog is STILL going after all this time! What is really funny is that everyone that has posted on here has been refunded. Notice that the ONLY person who is still posting is ROB. I am sure he will be adding one more post and then he will disappear as well. WHY? BECAUSE I JUST REFUNDED HIS MONEY AS OF THIS MORNING VIA PAYPAL! Why did it take so long long? Maybe because he was refunded once via money order and never received it and the fact that it took him longer then 6 months to contact me about his refund not arriving. This story has a happy ending because I am NOT the cold hearted person all of you claim I am and I refunded his money. Did I have too? NO! It has been well over a year and a money had been sent,(all of which I have the paper work to prove!), I did it because after verifying that the money order had been lost it would be the right thing to do to refund him.
As for slander and HIPPA laws, YES I DO HAVE A LEGAL CASE! Hippa is just not for medical info. Someone has posted my personal info and info about my husband on here WITHOUT my permission. Yes, people are untitle to their opinions, but calling me a bitch and a crook is slander. Can you prove I am a bitch? Can you prove I am a crook? I DON'T THINK SO! If I were then no one would have gotten their money back! I was NOT forced to give the money back. The DA did not charge me with anything. All I had to do was prove that I refunded the money and I also had to show that the merchandise I ordered was from 3 different vendors who scammed, not only me, but several hundred other merchants. This is something that NONE of you took into consideration!
This blog needs to be taken down and this ended once and for all! If anyone reading this has NOT gotten their money back then they need to contact me VIA EMAIL and let me know. DO NOT contact me claiming that you never received your money if in fact you did. I have all my paperwork and I will be checking to make sure that you were refunded. DO NOT call my home as this is NOT my business line and your calls WILL BE ignored! You have my email and that is the ONLY way I will resolve your refund!
As for the person who posted I was killed in a car accident. SHAME ON YOU! You have some issues and that was a sick posting!
Pradeep, you are the owner of this blog and you are just as lieable for any and all postings on here. IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT YOUR DISCLAIMER SAYS! You also got your money back.
MATT, you are claiming stolen credit card info. NOT SO! I NEVER RECEIVE ALL THE CREDIT CARD NUMBERS! If you look into the federal credit card rules that VISA/Mastercard has set you will see this. Your statement is slander because you are accusing me of stealing credit card info.
STEVE ROBBINS, calling me a bitch is also slander. Can you prove this? You have a buddy that is a PI? Good for you! You were refunded very fast after your card was charged,(I HAVE THE PROOF), and it wasn't by your credit card company. IT WAS BY ME! Your filthy mouth and threats only prove one thing. It shows what kind of person you really are.
NOT GULL, how come you can't sign your real name? Gutter trash? No education? YOU ARE SO WRONG! Do you really think I don't know who you are? Can you prove I am gutter trash? Can you prove I have no education? WELL GUESS WHAT? I CAN PROVE YOUR WRONG! Yet another person who can be charged with slander.
DO YOU PEOPLE NOT KNOW WHAT SLANDER IS?! LOOK IT UP!
Kelli,(At lest I sign my name!)
Kelli Acton